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Author: Subject: Help with Gregg's Hammond registrations...

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  posted on 1/19/2004 at 09:14 AM
This topic is also over at the ABB site, but I was hoping that Gregg (or Lana) might see it here as well...

I've having a heck of a time figuring out Gregg's Hammond sounds. As far as I can tell, there are about 3 or 4 sounds that he uses often. I've duplicated the Dreams and Whipping Post sounds pretty well, but there are others that have me stumped, like -

Liz Reed - especially the solo (and many other solos that use the same settings).
The fast-Leslie parts on many tunes, where he pulls out a couple of the higher drawbars (think Stormy Monday).

I realize that Gregg is constantly tweaking his sounds, but he's got some starting points that he seems to work from. I hope Lana will consider forwarding this to Gregg, and maybe he'd be willing to share some info on this topic. Maybe even add it to the FAQ?

Thanks in advance for all suggestions! Tom

 
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  posted on 1/6/2007 at 01:01 AM
yea that would be very cool for him to post some trade secrets of how he is doingcertian sounds to help people trying to get it , same with guitar licks would be helpfull. i ike to mess around with the guitar and try and figure out stuff but it can be pretty hard to get the right sound. nothing better than to forget a few days troulble with your favoret instrument and play along with some of your favorite songs to forget what all your troubles were and if you could really get the tone dead on our pretty dang close the easy way by the experts telling it, sure would make getttin ride of those blues a lot easyer. i dont see what the big deal is cause aint knowbody ever gona be able to sing one like him. just a few bones every now and then would be nice. i even considerd a couple time gettin a b3 just to play around with.
 

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  posted on 12/25/2008 at 01:25 PM
LOL...
Wish I could help, well, actually I could, but all I can tell you is that Gregory is very private about his settings.

I have some tweakings that Gregg likes me to do to his B3s and any rentals we might use, and as for the drawbar settings, you will note that, in concert, when he is finished performing, as he stands to say thank you & goodnight, he reaches down and pushes all the drawbars in so that it is not obvious how he likes them set.

True he does tweak them slightly during the show, also varying tremelo and percussion settings a bit for different segments of different tunes... but he does have specific starting points with the drawbars that he likes to keep under his hat.

Wsh I could help you more but, other than what I've told you here I must respect his sense of musical 'privacy".
Sorry.

 

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  posted on 12/25/2008 at 07:07 PM
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when he is finished performing, as he stands to say thank you & goodnight, he reaches down and pushes all the drawbars in so that it is not obvious how he likes them set.

I don't blame him a bit. This is his unique technique!!!

 

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  posted on 3/20/2009 at 08:03 PM
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This topic is also over at the ABB site, but I was hoping that Gregg (or Lana) might see it here as well...

I've having a heck of a time figuring out Gregg's Hammond sounds. As far as I can tell, there are about 3 or 4 sounds that he uses often. I've duplicated the Dreams and Whipping Post sounds pretty well, but there are others that have me stumped, like -

Liz Reed - especially the solo (and many other solos that use the same settings).
The fast-Leslie parts on many tunes, where he pulls out a couple of the higher drawbars (think Stormy Monday).

I realize that Gregg is constantly tweaking his sounds, but he's got some starting points that he seems to work from. I hope Lana will consider forwarding this to Gregg, and maybe he'd be willing to share some info on this topic. Maybe even add it to the FAQ?

Thanks in advance for all suggestions! Tom


I've been playing tone wheel Hammonds for 43 years, now. The B-3 and the M-3 (I use an M-3, now for back/spine reasons) are somewhat comparable. I always pull the first three drawbars (starting from the left and proceeding to the right, for the top manual) out, max...the 5th (black) out one number and the seventh or eighth (not both) out one number. Percussion is on third harmonic - heavy or normal is your chioce. That will get you close to the basic Jimmy Smith sound...which we all copied a long, long time ago. Hope that is of some use to you.

[Edited on 3/21/2009 by AllusCats]

[Edited on 3/23/2009 by AllusCats]

 

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  posted on 6/16/2010 at 08:58 PM
Hey Tom,

Search the web for Hammond registration sites. There is a big online Hammond community that has sites with listing for Hammond registrations for tons of songs. I have seen registrations online for Dreams, Whipping Post, Liz Reed and others. These probably did not come from the original artists but from Hammond dudes who can listen to a song and "hear" the individual drawbars. The standard Hammond setting for most rock, blues and Jazz is 888000000. I think Dreams is 808000000.

What you're going to have trouble with or have already had trouble with is that Gregg Allman is one of the few, if only Hammond players who truly know how to use the tonal qualities of the Hammond drawbars and the combination of that sound with the Leslie, and tremolo and chorus and percussion settings to make a song come to life. Most dudes just pull out the first three and leave em there. Gregg changes them and tweaks the sound all the time. He is a master of the instrument. And in my humble opinion, the most underrated keyboard man in music.

And Alluscats, I agree--there ain't nothin like sitting behind a Hammond console---400 pounds of wood, metal and oil with a the moving air from a spinning Leslie behind you. I play a 1956 Hammond C3 with a Leslie 122a and haul it around to play with my original Christian blues band, The Have Mercy Blues Band.......it has got to be an original tonewheel or nothing for me. (At least until my back finally does give out and I have to use a clone)

When will Hammond-Suzuki roll out the Gregg Allman signature model Hammond like guitar companies do with guitars?

BD

 

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  posted on 11/3/2010 at 06:53 PM
hi.I am a new to this forum.Ja also had a problem with setting the Hammond drawbars that sounded like a Gregg.I found this site.Here are his drawbars settings.pawel.
 

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  posted on 11/3/2010 at 06:56 PM
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hi.I am a new to this forum.Ja also had a problem with setting the Hammond drawbars that sounded like a Gregg.I found this site.Here are his drawbars settings.pawel.
http://keyboardservice.com/Drawbars.asp

 

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  posted on 8/4/2013 at 08:38 AM
New to forum....has anybody got the actual chords Gregory uses for most of the early albums...?
 

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  posted on 8/17/2013 at 09:18 PM
Thus Spake Daved: "I have some tweakings that Gregg likes me to do to his B3s and any rentals we might use..."

Couple of questions:

Might you be able/willing to elaborate some on these "tweakings"...?


Also, I noticed a Goff Prof logo on Gregg's Leslie in the Beacon Theatre video, Are you Al-in-drag, or working with Al...? (HAMTECH list member here)....


.....along the lines of an idea of a sort of "Uber-Master-Class", I'd love to suspend a phone-cam looking down over Gregg's shoulder for a whole concert to capture what he's doing at the controls. I've been struggling with Hammonds and clonewheels and software organs for several years, and the nuances of tone via registrations and controls still just frustrate the devil outta me. I would love to see Gregg discuss the hows, whys, and wherefores of the tones he pulls out of that beast. Particularly on things like the magic he works on "Cross to Bear" -- that sudden tone and Les-speed-change-up thingie he does in the first lines of the verse is absolutely brilliant and I have never heard anyone else do anything like it. Any idea how he does it?

Organ playing is a rare and in many ways a dying art, and sources for information seem to be few and far between.



 

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  posted on 8/22/2013 at 10:27 AM
Settings, smettings. I put my registrations where I feel the groove. My ears hear different tones than other people. I am an amature musician. Taught myself the piano and organ. I play a M3 with a 145 Leslie, that my band leader gave me, at church. They were both underneath his 1982 camero bumper in the garage. Also, I have my own set of groupies in the congregation. They are all 65+ years old, but anyway, they miss the Lawrence Welk Hammond sound.
 

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  posted on 8/28/2013 at 06:58 PM
"Settings, smettings..."

...yeah....

/rolleyes

 
 


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